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This page is used for posting announcements and information for Project: Redcap maintainers and contributors. See also Project Redcap:Current events for news and announcements of interest to the whole Ars Magica community.

Templates

Main page: Project Redcap:Templates

MediaWiki templates are very useful for making repeated, consistent notes and info boxes. Perhaps the most familiar template is Template:citation needed, but templates can do much more than that.

Using templates is a great way to ensure pages help the user easily find summary information and help make the whole site more usable by providing a consistent look-and-feel. Andrew Gronosky (talk) 13:49, 28 December 2015 (MST)

Mediawiki Extensions

The following MediaWiki extensions are enabled on this site to help maintainers create and organize great articles. You can see a full and up-to-date list of extensions on the page Special:Version.

Extension:Cite for citing your sources
Extension:EasyTimeline for making timelines; see also Help:Timeline
Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion for re-using excerpts from a long article on other pages (so you don't repeat yourself)

Language Support

The Ars Magica community is international and Project: Redcap has always offered information in multiple languages. Please see Help:Languages for information on how to create non-English pages. Please contact me if you would like any help getting started; I am very eager to help people who want to expand Project: Redcap to include other languages. Andrew Gronosky (talk) 12:49, 28 December 2015 (MST)
The edit history of this page before August 6, 2010 is archived at Legacy:administration.

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-This page is for administrative discussions among the site [[contributing|contributors]].
+This page is used for posting announcements and information for Project: Redcap maintainers and contributors. See also [[Project Redcap:Current events]] for news and announcements of interest to the whole Ars Magica community.
-== MediaWiki Migration ==
+== Templates ==
-Updated 2012-08-05
+{{Main|Project Redcap:Templates}}
+MediaWiki [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates templates] are very useful for making repeated, consistent notes and info boxes. Perhaps the most familiar template is [[Template:citation needed]], but templates can do much more than that.
-The migration to MediaWiki is underway. [[Andrew Gronosky]] has parsed the XML data from the old site and produced a separate file for each page, 2225 in all. These require conversion from [[PageWork]] format to [[MediaWiki]] format. Andrew wrote a script to automate that process, but it is only about 80% effective at this point.
+Using templates is a great way to ensure pages help the user easily find summary information and help make the whole site more usable by providing a consistent look-and-feel. [[User:Andrew Gronosky|Andrew Gronosky]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gronosky|talk]]) 13:49, 28 December 2015 (MST)
-If you want to help with the migration, take a look at the [[Special:RecentChanges]] page. Browse the recent additions, especially anything created by [[User:Redcap_Automation]], and check for mistakes. If you want to add content to improve the page, that would be good, too. :-)
+== Mediawiki Extensions ==
+The following MediaWiki extensions are enabled on this site to help maintainers create and organize great articles. You can see a full and up-to-date list of extensions on the page [[Special:Version]].
+* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite Extension:Cite] for citing your sources
+* [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EasyTimeline Extension:EasyTimeline] for making timelines; see also [[Help:Timeline]]
+* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Labeled_Section_Transclusion Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion]  for re-using excerpts from a long article on other pages (so you [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_repeat_yourself don't repeat yourself])
-== Stub Article Cleanup ==
+== Language Support ==
-I (Andrew Gronosky) am coming to believe it was a mistake to upload the hundreds of short articles that were auto-generated from lists of spells and Virtues and Flaws.
+The Ars Magica community is international and Project: Redcap has always offered information in multiple languages. Please see [[Help:Languages]] for information on how to create non-English pages. Please [[contact]] me if you would like any help getting started; I am very eager to help people who want to expand Project: Redcap to include other languages. [[User:Andrew Gronosky|Andrew Gronosky]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gronosky|talk]]) 12:49, 28 December 2015 (MST)
-There are three problems with these short articles:
+[[Category:Project Redcap]]
+{{Legacy|page=administration}}
-# They don't add much value to the site. I would argue having hundreds of one-line articles is a lot ''less'' valuable than just uploading the Virtues and Flaws Index PDF and pointing to that.
-# They give the impression that Project: Redcap is trying to be something it's not: an exhaustive index for the game. If we had a hundred contributors maybe we could maintain an exhaustive index. With the number we actually have, I'm actively opposed to taking on that thankless and tedious job.
-# They only cover a fraction of the Virtues and Flaws (and spells) in the game, so they give the impression that the site is a half-hearted job. The fact that most of them consist of nothing more than a page reference and a (probably dead) link add to that impression.
-So, I think we should get rid of most of these stub articles. If we actually have something useful to say about a Virtue, for example, [[Animal Ken]], by all means put that in the article and leave it in place. I also think it's important to import such articles so they show up in the database and project logs, in case anyone ever wants to resurrect them (say, to put in actual content).
-I've already got started on consolidating articles. We had a situation where there would be one stub for a Virtue like [[Animal Ken]] and a '''separate''' Stub for the corresponding Ability or Art or whatever. Since the Virtue and the Ability have the same name and we have only one line of text for each, I think it makes a lot of sense to have a single page covering both.
-I'd like to enlist the help of the other maintainers to review and clean up most of these articles. The situation I'm trying to avoid is for [[:Category:Virtues]] to contain 500 stub articles with that overwhelm the handful of articles where we really do have something to say, and is nothing more than an unusable and incomplete imitation of the Virtues and Flaws Index PDF.
-: Deleting the stubs sounds like a good idea. These are good arguments for that. I'd add that many time the entry is simply wrong or misleading (putting down invested effects as spells, or so on). The only bad thing I can see about it is that someone searching for a spell's name won't find it; I don't think we can import the indexes over, they're Atlas/creator's property. Still, we should just back-off the aspiration to be complete, as you say we have too few contributers for that. I'm not sure just what it is you want us to do, however. You want to (automatically) import the content over from PageWork, and then for us to manually delete and consolidate/expand the entries?  [[User:Yair|Yair]] 06:38, 6 August 2012 (MDT)
-== Legacy Page ==
-he history of this page before August 6, 2010 is archived at [[Legacy:administration]].