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{{about|the supplemental rule book for ArM5|the character type|Grog}} | {{about|the supplemental rule book for ArM5|the character type|Grog}} | ||
'''Grogs''' is a [[ArM5|Fifth Edition]] book dedicated to the | '''Grogs''' is a [[ArM5|Fifth Edition]] book dedicated to the creation, development and use of [[Grog|grog characters]] in play. | ||
== Subject and Contents == | == Subject and Contents == | ||
The [http://www.atlas-games.com/pdf_storage/GrogsContents.pdf table of contents] is available at the [[Atlas Games]] Web site. | |||
=== | Not all the grogs in this book are warriors. Among the example characters are "the Confessor," "the Failed Apprentice," and even "the Parent of a Gifted Child." (All of these are listed in the table of contents.) | ||
As one might expect, a whole book about grogs goes into a lot of depth. The first chapters describe how grogs are organized, what they do all day, how to assemble an effective team of grogs, and so forth. Since grogs comprise the majority of the inhabitants of a typical covenant, these chapters help bring to life the many servants and craftsmen who interact with the magi daily. | |||
There is also a section on running all-grog stories and even all-grog [[saga]]s. | |||
There are lots of new [[Virtue]]s and [[Flaw]]s for grogs -- some of which should also be appropriate for [[companion]]s. Before this book, grogs were somewhat lacking good options for [[Flaw]]s because they're ineligible to have [[Story Flaw]]s and (in [[Fifth Edition]]) limited to two [[Personality Flaw]]s. ''Grogs'' adds a selection of [[General Flaw]]s for grogs that make it easier to design a grog, while also enriching their options for character backgrounds. | |||
This book provides rules to simplify the bookkeeping for a [[turb]] of grogs: making several years' worth of [[Aging roll]]s at once, and providing [[training package]]s to more quickly update grogs' [[experience point]]s over several seasons at once. | |||
=== Combat Rules === | |||
''Grogs'' reprints the advanced group combat rules from ''[[Lords of Men]]''<ref>''[[Grogs]]'', p. 56, "Advanced Group Combat"</ref>, which cover morale and discipline in group combat. | |||
There are also rules for first aid, which prevents a wound from worsening and may allow an injured grog to keep marching. | |||
=== Grog Concepts === | |||
Over fifty pages are devoted to grog concepts. Many are presented as full-page descriptions including possible character backgrounds, suggested [[Ability]] scores for the character at different ages, and suggested [[Personality Trait]]s. At the end of the chapter are a number of briefer grog concepts that consist of only a paragraph or two of text. | |||
== Community Reviews == | == Community Reviews == | ||
Please edit this page to add your own comments about this book. | Please edit this page to add your own comments about this book. | ||
;A Tankard of Groggy Goodness | |||
:I've always loved grogs and was delighted to see a whole book about them. Overall, this book doesn't disappoint. There are dozens of grog concepts, lots of text about playing and running grogs, and plenty of new [[Virtue]]s and [[Flaw]]s. Chapter 2, "Grogs in the Covenant," sheds light on the magi's servants around the covenant and so is surprisingly useful for stories on the home front. I really regard that chapter as a completing the picture that ''[[Covenants]]'' started. I do think this book missed an opportunity to explain how to play grogs properly, which requires some thought and initiative. None the less, it's a solid book that expands character and story opportunities and, hopefully, will make your grogs more memorable. --[[Andrew Gronosky]] | |||
== References == | |||
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== Related Subjects == | == Related Subjects == | ||
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=== Related Products === | === Related Products === | ||
* [[Covenants]] | * [[Covenants]] is dedicated to covenants generally, but also dealt with grogs, particularly loyalty. | ||
=== Related External Sites === | === Related External Sites === | ||
* [http://www.atlas-games.com/product_tables/AG0301.php Official product page] at Atlas Games | * [http://www.atlas-games.com/product_tables/AG0301.php Official product page] at Atlas Games | ||
*[http://www.warehouse23.com/item.html?id=AG0301 Product Page from Warehouse 23] | |||
*[http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=AG0301PDF Product Page from e23] | |||
* The [http://www.atlas-games.com/pdf_storage/GrogsContents.pdf Table of Contents] available on the product page | * The [http://www.atlas-games.com/pdf_storage/GrogsContents.pdf Table of Contents] available on the product page | ||
* [https://forum.atlas-games.com/t/lots-of-grogs/167287 Lots of Grogs] a discussion thread on the Atlas Games forums with pregenerated grogs | |||
[[Category:ArM5]] | [[Category:ArM5]] | ||
[[Category:Products]] | [[Category:Products]] | ||
Latest revision as of 11:08, 17 October 2022
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| Product Information | |
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| Rules Edition: | Fifth Edition |
| Product Type: | Sourcebook |
| Author(s): | Mark Shirley, Christian Rosenkjaer Andersen, Evangeline Cheng, Camo Coffey, Mark Faulkner, Timothy Ferguson, Mark Lawford |
| Publisher: | Atlas Games |
| Product Number: | AG0301 |
| ISBN: | 1-58978-129-5 |
| Release date: | July 2012 |
| Format: | Hardcover, 144 pages |
| Availability: | Hardcover available |
Grogs is a Fifth Edition book dedicated to the creation, development and use of grog characters in play.
Subject and Contents
The table of contents is available at the Atlas Games Web site.
Not all the grogs in this book are warriors. Among the example characters are "the Confessor," "the Failed Apprentice," and even "the Parent of a Gifted Child." (All of these are listed in the table of contents.)
As one might expect, a whole book about grogs goes into a lot of depth. The first chapters describe how grogs are organized, what they do all day, how to assemble an effective team of grogs, and so forth. Since grogs comprise the majority of the inhabitants of a typical covenant, these chapters help bring to life the many servants and craftsmen who interact with the magi daily.
There is also a section on running all-grog stories and even all-grog sagas.
There are lots of new Virtues and Flaws for grogs -- some of which should also be appropriate for companions. Before this book, grogs were somewhat lacking good options for Flaws because they're ineligible to have Story Flaws and (in Fifth Edition) limited to two Personality Flaws. Grogs adds a selection of General Flaws for grogs that make it easier to design a grog, while also enriching their options for character backgrounds.
This book provides rules to simplify the bookkeeping for a turb of grogs: making several years' worth of Aging rolls at once, and providing training packages to more quickly update grogs' experience points over several seasons at once.
Combat Rules
Grogs reprints the advanced group combat rules from Lords of Men[1], which cover morale and discipline in group combat.
There are also rules for first aid, which prevents a wound from worsening and may allow an injured grog to keep marching.
Grog Concepts
Over fifty pages are devoted to grog concepts. Many are presented as full-page descriptions including possible character backgrounds, suggested Ability scores for the character at different ages, and suggested Personality Traits. At the end of the chapter are a number of briefer grog concepts that consist of only a paragraph or two of text.
Community Reviews
Please edit this page to add your own comments about this book.
- A Tankard of Groggy Goodness
- I've always loved grogs and was delighted to see a whole book about them. Overall, this book doesn't disappoint. There are dozens of grog concepts, lots of text about playing and running grogs, and plenty of new Virtues and Flaws. Chapter 2, "Grogs in the Covenant," sheds light on the magi's servants around the covenant and so is surprisingly useful for stories on the home front. I really regard that chapter as a completing the picture that Covenants started. I do think this book missed an opportunity to explain how to play grogs properly, which requires some thought and initiative. None the less, it's a solid book that expands character and story opportunities and, hopefully, will make your grogs more memorable. --Andrew Gronosky
References
Related Subjects
See the following links for more information.
Related Pages
Related Products
- Covenants is dedicated to covenants generally, but also dealt with grogs, particularly loyalty.
Related External Sites
- Official product page at Atlas Games
- Product Page from Warehouse 23
- Product Page from e23
- The Table of Contents available on the product page
- Lots of Grogs a discussion thread on the Atlas Games forums with pregenerated grogs